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thom325

#one Posted : Sunday, May iii, 2015 4:39:43 PM(UTC)

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How does bereavement leave work with the Postal service Role? Do you become paid for it? or practise you use annual or sick leave?

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    #two Posted : Sun, May three, 2015 7:34:23 PM(UTC)

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      #3 Posted : Monday, May 4, 2015 two:55:23 AM(UTC)

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      I'chiliad surprised anyone would think the PO would pay for it.

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        #four Posted : Monday, May four, 2015 3:18:46 AM(UTC)

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        I was request cuz my brother just passed and needed some time off so i just take a leave without pay?

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          #5 Posted : Mon, May four, 2015 8:33:28 PM(UTC)

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          Originally Posted by: thom325 Go to Quoted Post

          How does bereavement exit work with the Mail Office? Do you get paid for information technology? or practise you utilize annual or ill exit?

          For clerks(and those covered by the APWU):
          http://www.apwu.org/sites/apwu/...files/jcim-2012-july.pdf
          Page 79 states:
          "BEREAVEMENT LEAVE
          Employees may use a total of up to 3 workdays of annual go out, ill leave or leave
          without pay, to make arrangements necessitated past the decease of a family unit fellow member or
          nourish the funeral of a family member. Authorization of leave across iii workdays is
          subject to the weather condition and requirements of Commodity 10 of the National Agreement,
          Subsection 510 of the Employee and Labor Relations Manual and the applicable local
          memorandum of understanding provisions. Definition of a Family Member:
          A "family fellow member" is defined as a:
          (a) Son or daughter–a biological or adopted child, stepchild, girl-in-police or
          son-in-law;
          (b) Spouse;
          (c) Parent; or
          (d) Sibling-brother; sis; blood brother-in-law; sis-in-law; or
          (e) Grandparent.
          For employees opting to utilize available sick leave, the leave will be charged to sick leave
          for dependent care, if eligible.
          Documentation evidencing the death of the employee's family fellow member is required only
          when the supervisor deems documentation desirable for the protection of the interest of
          the Mail.
          Annotation: As a signal of description, the in-laws referenced in this MOU applies to children,
          including adopted children, stepchildren and spouses thereof, spouse and parents
          thereof; and brothers and sisters and spouses thereof."

          The NALC'southward MOU on above is the same,http://www.nalc.org/workplace-i...-unit/body/JCAM-2014.pdf(Pg.ten-17), with the addition of it too applies to CCA's.

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            #six Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:19:xvi AM(UTC)

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            So does it have b annual leave that I use or tin can I use ill exit as my option??

              #seven Posted : Wednesday, May vi, 2015 7:12:03 AM(UTC)

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              oops :)

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                #eight Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:34:08 AM(UTC)

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                Originally Posted by: postalvet Go to Quoted Post

                Originally Posted by: thom325 Go to Quoted Post

                And so does it have to exist annual leave that I use or tin I use sick leave every bit my option??

                ill leave is only when you are sick or have an FMLA case.

                this would not be one of those times.

                annual or lwop.

                REad that get-go judgement of the quoted material once more. It specifically, says sick can be used.

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                  #ix Posted : Wednesday, May 6, 2015 vi:12:17 PM(UTC)

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                  You're not limited to merely 3 days off. You merely get iii days of "bereavement exit." Yous tin employ any leave for those iii days and the PO can't deny yous. Any time you demand beyond that will exist subject to whatever exit procedures you unremarkably have to follow. If you're given grief for trying to take time off, use emergency annual leave. You lot only need a reason, which will be obvious.

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                    #ten Posted : Sabbatum, May ix, 2015 8:19:22 AM(UTC)

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                    Yea Then today she asked me what my plans were for this week. The funeral for my brother is probably gonna b later on this week my mom is however working through the details. So I told her I may need to take off more than the three days. So she goes well any others days u accept off will be unscheduled leave and that I would accept to fill out a 3971 and that I cud exist penalized for beingness off. She basically told me I everybody goes through stuff and I need to get over it. Cuz I still have to piece of work. Talking abt there is no argument and that I would lose either way. I was told I should go talk to my Union rep. I don't know what to exercise because I never know in that location was ppl that acted like her. Most ppl would accept been off this concluding week but I came in to aid her out since the other had to go and she basically threatens me cuz I need a fiddling fourth dimension to myself to grieve. Excuse any typos I'm really upset

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                      #11 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2015 9:17:45 AM(UTC)

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                      Yea So today she asked me what my plans were for this week. The funeral for my brother is probably gonna b afterwards on this week my mom is still working through the details. So I told her I may need to take off more than the iii days. And then she goes well whatsoever others days u take off will be unscheduled get out and that I would take to make full out a 3971 and that I cud be penalized for existence off. She basically told me I everybody goes through stuff and I demand to go over it. Cuz I still have to work. Talking abt in that location is no argument and that I would lose either way. I was told I should go talk to my Union rep. I don't know what to do because I never know there was ppl that acted like her. Most ppl would take been off this last calendar week but I came in to help her out since the other had to go and she basically threatens me cuz I need a little time to myself to grieve. Alibi any typos I'g really upset

                      What is your position? CCA? By probation? FTR? If you're by probation, go to the doctor, pay the co-pay and get every bit much time off as you need. Management will not win an argument with a physician's note.

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                        #12 Posted : Saturday, May ix, 2015 10:47:42 AM(UTC)

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                        Yea Then today she asked me what my plans were for this week. The funeral for my brother is probably gonna b subsequently on this calendar week my mom is still working through the details. So I told her I may need to take off more than than the three days. And then she goes well whatsoever others days u take off volition be unscheduled leave and that I would have to fill up out a 3971 and that I cud be penalized for beingness off. She basically told me I everybody goes through stuff and I need to go over information technology. Cuz I all the same accept to work. Talking abt there is no argument and that I would lose either style. I was told I should become talk to my Matrimony rep. I don't know what to practise because I never know there was ppl that acted like her. Most ppl would have been off this terminal calendar week merely I came in to assist her out since the other had to become and she basically threatens me cuz I need a little time to myself to grieve. Excuse any typos I'1000 really upset

                        What is your position? CCA? Past probation? FTR? If y'all're past probation, get to the physician, pay the co-pay and become every bit much fourth dimension off as you demand. Management will not win an statement with a doc'due south notation.

                        I'm a PTF and yep I'm past probation

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                          #xiii Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2015 i:38:03 PM(UTC)

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                          She basically told me I everybody goes through stuff and I need to get over it.

                          Unfreakingbelievable.

                          You must accept just stood in that location in daze.

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                            #xiv Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:54:58 PM(UTC)

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                            Originally Posted past: thom325 Go to Quoted Post

                            I'thousand a PTF and yes I'1000 past probation

                            Fill out a 3971 and check LWOP and in the remarks section, write sick leave. If she wants a dr.'due south note, she tin can ask for information technology merely that would be stupid on her function, any md is going to give y'all a annotation saying whatever you like. The death of an immediate family unit fellow member plain is going to cause mental distress and people grieve in different ways.

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                              #15 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:03:thirty PM(UTC)

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                              She did give y'all one expert slice of advice - talk to the steward. If you're a PTF, then you are literally one yr - AT MOST - away from becoming FTR as mandated in the Das award.

                              Don't allow anything get out of paw and jeopardize that. You lot need to stop dealing with the problem face to confront and let the people who take care of these things do their work. Fourth dimension to phone call The Wolf.

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                                What is the Das award???

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                                  #17 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2015 four:05:22 PM(UTC)

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                                  Originally Posted past: 122intheshade Go to Quoted Post

                                  She did requite you i skillful piece of advice - talk to the steward. If y'all're a PTF, then you are literally one year - AT MOST - away from condign FTR as mandated in the Das award.

                                  Don't let anything become out of hand and jeopardize that. You need to stop dealing with the problem face to face and let the people who accept intendance of these things practice their work. Time to telephone call The Wolf.

                                  What is the Das honour? And yes I volition be contacting my matrimony rep on Mon.

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                                    #18 Posted : Saturday, May ix, 2015 4:28:01 PM(UTC)

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                                    I made an assumption that you lot are a letter carrier. If and so, and so this is of relevance to y'all. Peculiarly the cease of page 3.

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                                      #19 Posted : Sabbatum, May ix, 2015 five:29:00 PM(UTC)

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                                      I'1000 a PTF and yes I'm past probation

                                      Fill out a 3971 and bank check LWOP and in the remarks section, write sick leave. If she wants a doctor'due south note, she can enquire for information technology but that would be stupid on her part, whatever doctor is going to requite you a note maxim whatever you like. The death of an immediate family unit fellow member obviously is going to crusade mental distress and people grieve in different ways.

                                      Went thru situation over 25yrs ago. Was PTF Carrier at the time. My mom stroked while at the hospital for center issues. Was put on life support subsequently, and "u.s. kids" were waiting for dad to brand the right determination(by 3rd-4th day at that place was no brain activity) and take her off of information technology. I was the person driving daily to go our uncle, as he was the only person dad "would really talk to". After nigh a week, dad decided to end life support. Work gave me time off, just refused my ill exit requests, saying my just choice was LWOP(I had very little almanac at that fourth dimension). I submitted a notation from my medico which stated, because of ongoing issues I was emotionally unable to piece of work. Piece of work promptly granted my sick leave asking. This was a previous part with less than humane mgmt. Current part is much meliorate. Stick to your guns and become the time off y'all deserve.

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                                        So if I have a doctors notation will the absences all the same count against me similar the PM claimed they would? Or is this like FMLA?

                                        Edited past userSaturday, May 9, 2015 half-dozen:04:31 PM(UTC) |Reason: Non specified

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